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In this country we tell youth that to make a good living they must get a good education. Federal employees are among the most educated workforce. Why shouldn't we be paid well? And that statement doesn't begin to address the complexity and importance of the work we do. It is interesting that CATO is looking at "compensation" not wages. So health insurance, retirement, and vacation are included in the figures. These should be rights of all workers. The political right in the U.S. seems to be the only group that still doesn't understand this.
Posted by fedemployee on July 3, 2008 - 06:50 AM
Anyone who thinks government fuctions are run efficiently is either stupid or lying. We all joke about how things would differ if we were working on the "Outside." Diligence and creativity are stifiled and incompetence, if not rewarded, is overlooked. Management accountability is close to nonexistent. I'm bowing out and taking a big hit on pay.
Posted by Dilbert on July 3, 2008 - 07:09 AM
I note that Mr. Wilkinson didn't bother to compare gov't salaries with those of lobbyists, contractors and other white collar workers in DC. I could go to almost any private firm and ear 25-50K MORE per year for the same duties I have now. Overpaid? Who is he kidding.
Posted by To Burke on July 3, 2008 - 09:57 AM
I note that Mr. Wilkinson didn't bother to compare gov't salaries with those of lobbyists, contractors and other white collar workers in DC. I could go to almost any private firm and ear 25-50K MORE per year for the same duties I have now. Overpaid? Who is he kidding.
Posted by To Burke on July 3, 2008 - 09:57 AM
There is plenty of truth to both sides of this issue. I think the main reason the government average "compensation" is so high is that it is overloaded with higher paid managers making all sorts of rules (many bad, which is why it is so inefficient) and not many workers that actually get things done. Another thing causing the big difference is that there are not a lot of "burger flippers", part time jobs, and other lower paid types of jobs in the government as in the private sector.
Posted by expgeoengr on July 3, 2008 - 10:17 AM
Cato is a standard example of what's known as "wingnut welfare" or "conservative welfare". Otherwise-unemployable hacks are nurtured in well-subsidized sheltered workshops like Cato, where their conservative indoctrination never needs to be buffeted by reality.
It's all part of the plan that was first laid out by former Nixon Administration member William Simon in his books *A Time For Truth* and *A Time For Action* back in the late 1970s. Simon, as head of the hyperconservative and hyperfunded Olin Foundation, was able to found and fund a number of conservative pundit hatcheries and to convince businessmen to stop funding universities, groups and media entities that didn't hew to a conservative line. He used new conservative groups to train pundits and then send them to do battle on talk shows and bludgeon their way onto newspapers' editorial pages and colleges' Boards of Trustees.
Posted by HW Rixon on July 3, 2008 - 11:27 AM
Having been on both sides of the fence (Govt and industry), I believe there is considerable comparability in compensation. The real problem on the Government side is position classification and grade. Some positions, particularly in the National Capitol Region, are under graded; however, far too many are over graded. I've heard many reasons from over graded incumbents why their positions require the grade they have; non have passed the common sense test.
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